Body for Life Forum Message by jeremy (1037 posts) at 07:39 AM
I like the zig zag approach but also remember you need enough food to build a little more muscle to raise your metabolic rate or at least keep it the same. Eat two to three hours and try carb depletion at night time...
Hope this helps
Body for Life Forum Message by jeremy (1037 posts) at 07:45 AM
I play bball and softball in the summer. I was happy to still have my jumping ability at 28. I hope to play bball for many more years it such a challenging and rewarding sport
Body for Life Forum Message by jeremy (1037 posts) at 07:36 AM
Plus there are other exercises that he could do that might benefit him more such as jump squats with a med ball or plyometric jumping. He could go to www.athletes.com for more information
Body for Life Forum Message by jeremy (1037 posts) at 07:42 AM
Boxing is another great option along with jumping rope.
Body for Life Forum Message by snowboardingfairy (118 posts) at 08:36 AM
This may be what I need to get over my plateau- it's worth a shot!
Body for Life Forum Message by chuckdiesel99 (735 posts) at 09:42 AM
I attempted to try it yesterday but the Life Fitness equipment that my gym has does not have the setting called for by the program :( I hope you guys/gals like it.
Body for Life Forum Message by jeremy (1037 posts) at 07:31 AM
Body for Life Forum Message by jeremy (1037 posts) at 07:34 AM
Oops...
Here is my question
I am starting a nutrition program at two fitness togethers called FUEL. Does anyone have any advice for this program. It will be geared for people to lose fat and gain muscle. Any advice is appreciated.
Body for Life Forum Message by DreamCatcher (622 posts) at 11:01 PM
Goodness Jeremy, I think you know more about nutrition here than most of us! Are you just talking about a plan/idea or are you talking actual products ideas?
Body for Life Forum Message by snowboardingfairy (118 posts) at 02:51 PM
I don't understand, everytime I do my LBWO using my free weights, anything over 15 lbs literrally pains my hands so bad, I want to cry!! I use lifting gloves, proper form, and never experience this pain during my UBWO. I just dont get it? Am I the only one who's hands are suffering during squats?
Body for Life Forum Message by chuckdiesel99 (735 posts) at 02:54 PM
How do you do your squats? Smith machine or free weights? How are you holding the bar?
Body for Life Forum Message by snowboardingfairy (118 posts) at 03:14 PM
I use free weights and follow the BFL book. set1: 10lbs set2:15lbs set3:20lbs set4:25lbs set5:20lbs set6:15 or 20lbs mind you that's in each hand, so really I'm squating 2x the lbs listed. Holding them just like the girl in the book. I use a mirror and check my form, which seems to be great. I feel it in my lower body where I should, unfortunatly, I feel a lot of pain in my hands as well.
Body for Life Forum Message by chuckdiesel99 (735 posts) at 03:21 PM
Okay, I think I know your problem. Your grip strength is not as strong as your legs thus your hands are giving out before your legs are. Have you tried using just the bar instead of dumbells? YOu might want to look into lifting straps if you cant squat the bar.
Body for Life Forum Message by chuckdiesel99 (735 posts) at 03:35 PM
I would also like to commend you for squatting. A lot of people fear this exercise which is a big mistake in my opinion.
Im not sure how much money you want to spend but here is the pair of lifting straps I just bought. They work really well and I think they will solve your problem.
Body for Life Forum Message by Moggie (591 posts) at 03:41 PM
Thanks for sharing that Chuck. I have a similar problem with DB squats. Not so much pain in my hands but just the inability to hold enough weight to really give my legs the workout they need. I was considering switching to machines or the squat rack thingy.
Body for Life Forum Message by snowboardingfairy (118 posts) at 03:44 PM
thank you chuck, who knew such a product existed! And I think your right about the strength issue. I so appreciate your response :)
Body for Life Forum Message by chuckdiesel99 (735 posts) at 04:10 PM
Glad I could help. I have the same problem with barbell/dumbell shrugs, thats why I bought those straps.
To anyone else out there reading this, I would advise against squats in the smith machine because it forces you into an unnatural form. This could lead to injury if you go for too much weight. I only do squats with a barbell in a power rack. The smith machine also limits the development of stabalizer muscles.
Doing them like snowboardingfairy and Moggie is the way to go if you cant squat an empty barbell with good form.
Body for Life Forum Message by jeremy (1037 posts) at 10:11 AM
I am watching videos about protein and both "the undiet" and the "makers diet" dislike soy protein. I have not done enough research but this is what they claim. They also love rice milk and almond milk.
Body for Life Forum Message by chuckdiesel99 (735 posts) at 10:52 AM
The makers diet? Is that the one where you drink Makers all day long?
JK
Body for Life Forum Message by jeremy (1037 posts) at 05:19 PM
Nope you have to eat the makers:)
Body for Life Forum Message by jeremy (1037 posts) at 05:20 PM
Just kidding in all reality it seems to make a lot of sense and I have adopted a few of his ideas
Body for Life Forum Message by snowboardingfairy (118 posts) at 09:06 AM
Reading past posts, I've notice that many people take Betagen and CLA, my question is : Is the CLA already in the Betagen, or is it another supplement? Second, is EAS the only people who make Betagen, what about CLA? Is there a superior brand of CLA? Or is CLA all the same and just bottled differently? Last question ( I swear) Whats the best website to purchase these products at a cheaper rate?
Body for Life Forum Message by ocpanther65 (137 posts) at 05:00 PM
Well, CLA (conjucted lineolic acid) is not in Betagen. It can be taken in a pill (usually two pills, twice daily). This product has been shown to increase fat loss and is found naturally in red meat. Betagen is a mixture of creatine and HMB. Creatine is also found in red meat and is present in everones bodies. Creatine has been shown to increase strength, HMB aids in muscle recovery so Betagen is great to take right before and right after a work out. You could hypothetically take creatine and HMB separate and get similar effects. EAS is the only company that I am aware of that manufactures Betagen but there are many companies that make CLA. Make sure that the CLA that you get is called Tonalin CLA as there are different sources. Any good company that you go with is fine, I take vitamin worlds. As far as getting the products cheap I am not sure where you should go. I usually get mine at GNC when its gold card tuesday or at vitamin shoppe or world when they are on discount.
Body for Life Forum Message by Supa K (746 posts) at 12:00 PM
*twinmom! Good to see you again!*
These are such great stories!
My husband and daughter are my greatest gifts, no doubt about it. We did not struggle a bit in having our daughter -- as so many do. But we are thankful every day that we are so blessed. She is healthy, happy and thriving and is a peach the majority of the time.
Body for Life Forum Message by justdoit (198 posts) at 01:01 PM
I am so moved by everyone's stories. I feel like we get to know each other on so many levels when a post like this is started. (thanks amkazen)
I have so many cherished gifts. I feel a little guilty when I start to list them because in the course of a day I seem to forget so many of them. We all have stressful days and we need to remind ourselves of our blessings.
1. My parents, who are there for me unconditionally. (They have my children this weekend while I get over a virus.)
2. My husband and his 8 months of sobriety. (He may not have made the list last Christmas!!) He has given me back the man I married 13 years ago.
3. My 6 1/2 year old son. He has special needs that keep me busy, but he has the gift to not notice ANY differences between people. He doesn't ask why people are in wheelchairs, walk with canes, talk by signing, have different skin colors, etc. He never notices if people are dirty or smell. He loves people. He wants to hug every one!!! He has made parents with children in wheelchairs cry because he went right up to their children, hugged them and ask how they were doing today. He tells them that they are beautiful. He is a gift to me and the world.
4. My 3 1/2 year old daughter, who is dramatic, entertaining, sassy, graceful, beautiful, bossy, and very moody. She reminds me that not everybody is happy all of the time!
5. My 3 1/2 year son (yes they are twins!), who laughs 95% of his life. He reminds me to find humor in everything. He has two switches: OFF and RUN!!! He never does anything slowly. He makes it difficult to fuss because he giggles even when he is punished.
This thread made me sit down and remind myself of the things I cherish. I always feel like my life goes a million miles an hour. I stopped to remember why I do what I do. Thanks
Body for Life Forum Message by Supa K (746 posts) at 02:21 PM
bump!
Body for Life Forum Message by snowboardingfairy (118 posts) at 02:44 PM
The greatest gift EVER given to me is my Dad. How many men raise four children(3 of them girls) on their own. Especially 20 yrs ago when multiple people suggeted him giving us up for adoption (after the death of my mother.) He is the greatest man to walk this earth, and he has set such a standard in the man I chose to marry
Body for Life Forum Message by Lala (633 posts) at 05:42 PM
Wow.. what a Great Thread...
yes ..this IS what the OT section is about...
for sharing things about ourselves that are beyond the "I did LBWO today" & "how do I avoid eating..such & such".
This I where we can learn things about one another that make the picture we have to look at- come to life :)
& I will add to this list .. my wonderful children Jessica & Steven ( way more traditional names than some! ~lol) & My darling Husband & True soulmate Jamie.. married 3yrs ago now,,but friends ..forever :)
Body for Life Forum Message by FV Tom (80 posts) at 12:11 PM
Flower, here's for being positive and thinking it won't always be crappy!
I always go to the Discussion Forums link because I was never quite sure where I would end up using the the Recent Topics.
Tom
Body for Life Forum Message by jeremy (1037 posts) at 07:49 AM
I am from Minnesota originally and live in Wisconsin now. We have more than cows and dairy food... although we have to much of both. Milwaukee is an underated city in terms of great places to live. It is true that it is way to cold especially in Northern Wisconsin and Minnesota
Body for Life Forum Message by Shannette22 (623 posts) at 09:43 AM
I am in Dallas, Texas and OF COURSE the stereotypes are that we all ride horses and wear cowboy hats and have really big hair. haha. A few weeks ago, I met a guy at a bar and he was from England. It was his first time in Texas and he made this exact comment: "I thought everyone would have on cowboy hats and be riding horses!" I guess he was pleasantly suprised that we're actually "normal" here. haha. Now, we do have the word "ya'll" in our vocabulary. I was friends with a guy from Canada and he could just not get over that word!! haha. Of course, I had to make fun of his "eh?" ;)
Body for Life Forum Message by Supa K (746 posts) at 12:59 AM
You're always an example of strength and perseverance, Udenia. ((hugs))
Body for Life Forum Message by Udenia (2074 posts) at 03:54 AM
Well here is another twist for you all!
I spent 1/2 the night in the ER.. Cameron has Pneumonia! Go Friggin Figure! Today we got up, went and picked up some pictures at the Exhange and I noticed he wasn't eating much, actually not at all, he picked and then thru it down, didn't even want to drink his Orange Juice, which he loves,, and most of the morning, I knew something was going on, so I checked his temp, 99.8, ok there went the first suppository, then it jumped to 102 and off we went to the ER.
He has pneumonia! Ok what else?
He is sleeping now, hopefully all night even through these assholes blasting their music across from me... I really don't like them at all!
But my baby is out, hopefully he rest well....
Body for Life Forum Message by Supa K (746 posts) at 11:33 AM
Oh, your poor baby!
Ally was sick all the time between her first and second years (not sick like Cameron, but sick all the same). It is so hard and frustrating.
Hang in there! Sending you lots of love and support!
K
Body for Life Forum Message by FV Tom (80 posts) at 12:00 PM
Hang in there,kid. It can only get better.
Cameron is a great looking young man!
Tom
Body for Life Forum Message by justdoit (198 posts) at 12:22 PM
Udenia, I have soooo much to share with you about raising a child with special needs. It seems overwhelming often, however it teaches us as parents to celebrate the small victories. Throw in sickness and we realize how important it is for us to take care of ourselves. If you want to discuss any of the testing and services that will be provided for your beautiful Cameron, please feel free to PM me and we can talk about ANY issue you have concerns about. My prayers and my friendship are there for you.
Take care, Deb
(and try to take a little nap and get your own vitamins in!!!)
Body for Life Forum Message by Udenia (2074 posts) at 01:56 PM
I am walking around in my sleep, trying to watch this good game on the tube but my eyes won't cooperate, but Cameron isn't sleeping so I can,, I do need ALL OF YOUR HELP.
He is getting smart on how I put medicine in with his yogurt/juice. ANY OTHER IDEAS, I have to give him antibodics for two weeks, twice a day? It taste like bubble gum, they say? thanks!
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (377 posts) at 02:03 PM
Can you mix it in anything else? Maybe something he won't be able to see you mix it in.
Body for Life Forum Message by Supa K (746 posts) at 02:18 PM
If he doesn't like the bubble gum, the pharmacy can mix up just about any flavor to mask the meds.
I suppose smearing it all over his face and hands won't work the way it does with cats. ;-)
Body for Life Forum Message by Udenia (2074 posts) at 08:42 PM
He actually sometimes sits there and smells it? go figure. Got that from Bear in the Big Blue House,,, damn bear. but I have mixed his antiboditic?> in his yogurt and so when he wakes up, I will give it to him, maybe he will be too damn sleepy to know any better, if not, we might end back up int he hospital... wish me luck
Body for Life Forum Message by SimpleButterfly (226 posts) at 10:25 PM
Udenia,
You are one heck of a strong woman!
I don't have any advice for you because I've never been where you are, but I wanted to send some virtual hugs!
I hope you're getting some rest...
Connie
Body for Life Forum Message by Udenia (2074 posts) at 11:55 PM
I am still up and he still has not taken his medication for the night, I can force him, he will spit it out all over the place, what am I to do?
I am running out of options here.
Body for Life Forum Message by DreamCatcher (622 posts) at 12:06 AM
well then, that was a nice sentiment!
Body for Life Forum Message by Supa K (746 posts) at 12:54 AM
Panther ... can I call you that? ... good post. Intriguing points. Well-written.
Personally, I don't consider myself an armchair warrior -- well, not by choice. This past year I went from being a career gal to a stay-at-home mom in a new (somewhat unwelcome) city. I came to this site a year ago just for BFL knowledge -- like you described. In little time, I made some of the best friends I have ever had.
I don't say that in defense of group mentality -- cliques or the like. I guess I say it a bit in defense regarding your strong words about getting a life for those to seem to find one here. And for the most part, the friends I have made weren't into the topics new people seem to be bonding over. Our off-topic threads were often about children or spouses or parents or childhood troubles -- all aspects of life that either affect our BFL efforts or were the cause of the physical ailments we are trying to overcome.
But even during those times, some folks were annoyed with the off-topic conversation. They weren't part of the group, didn't want to be part of the group, and used the same argument we're using here: this is a fitness site. There were arguments, sometimes heated. Then there was anonymous trolling. Some people would leave, which their friends would decry -- just like now. And other people just quietly drifted away.
It's a cycle that likely won't stop. If you suffered through all of the Matrix series, it's probably a bit like that: this has all happened and will continue to happen.
Anyway ... I guess I just wanted to say, nicely, don't tell me to get a life because I've made friends online. With cyber relationships, you get what you give. :-)
And I give you good karma for being proactive and thoughtful.
Body for Life Forum Message by T~N~T (800 posts) at 08:30 PM
Well, I thought that was a really good post. Brought up some good points. Though I have to disagree with the friends subject. I have met quite a few people on here and talk to some via phone quite a bit. And I do consider us great friends and I know if I had the money I would visit them. I have even met one in person. So yea I am friends with them and I consider them to be very good friends.
Also, I was in the same boat as Supa K moved to a place (neighborhood in my case) that really was not so welcoming & hard to make friends. Not to mention my friends that I did have thought I was oingo boingo nutso for wanting to change my life and *gasp* join a gym. Some were down right negative nellies that I choose not to hang around because I was changing my life-style. I found support, help, knowledge, and yes some fun OT (not the crude crazy ones) subjects that friends would normally share about life. I mean it is Body-for-LIFE. And I do love to workout and talk the next persons ear off about it but I also like to share some things that are going on in my life. I don't think I am armchair warrior. I am just home a bit more because I have a 2 year old and now that I am dieting for competition I use the computer as a tool of distraction and research. So to say you can't make friends on here and that we need to get a life was kinda a bold statement.
I am not offended I just wanted to let you know that there are some great friendships that have been created here. I do agree with pretty much most of your post. I really do. Because quite frankly I agree this should be for support of fitness and any kind if a member needs it. Now I don't have to name examples of what is annoying I am sure we all know what those are. And they have had more than there fair share of attention.
Body for Life Forum Message by michiganmike (170 posts) at 09:11 PM
PERSEPHONE! You've got to lay off that Yorkshire pudding in order to see your toes again! There's actually a physio-geometric formula to figure it out. Essentially, the square root of the number of calories of Yorkshire pudding taken times pi, (3.14) and divided by the number of the month of the date of your birth will give you the approximate number of days that it will take you to see your toes again--without the assistance of a mirror--OR A MAGNIFYING GLASS!
Body for Life Forum Message by Supa K (746 posts) at 12:57 AM
Whew -- I think g-rated is a bit much. PG-13 more my personal style. Just being honest.
Body for Life Forum Message by GET*HER*DONE (2751 posts) at 01:11 AM
we had this disscusion before and it leaad to some nasty stuff and people quiting tracker, what got my goat was that the webmaster said, it was ok, if you don't like it, use the ignore button, which is no way to run a website. I agree with you mike and I think PG is the max,
my 3 cents
Linda
Body for Life Forum Message by Go4steffie (729 posts) at 06:58 AM
I think PG is great! There are some things that are better left for an R-rated site.
Stef :-)
Body for Life Forum Message by kmachate (Self-Removed Member) (631 posts) at 08:01 AM
Fuck'em.
What? You're offended buy that?
Well I'm offended by a lot of you closed minded, ultra right wing, holier than thou conservatives.
Guess that makes us even.
Body for Life Forum Message by Karla (445 posts) at 09:21 AM
I agree with Mike's point, but agree with Supa K that G is too much (do they even make G movies anymore?). PG-13 sounds reasonable. Leaves something to the imagination anyway. JMO.
Body for Life Forum Message by willowgerl (207 posts) at 09:51 AM
I agree with Supa K - I think "G" is a bit much. I don't think profanity is always indicative of a weak mind at work. I tend to think of it as a really strong spice; used judiciously by a talented cook it can have an interesting effect in the right dish. Used liberally in any old dish it just ruins the taste of everything.
But, it can often be a sign that the person using it has run out of rational arguments. And I don't personally find that offensive, just amusing.
Body for Life Forum Message by Karla (445 posts) at 10:01 AM
Very well written Willowgerl. I totally agree.
Body for Life Forum Message by Shannette22 (623 posts) at 10:04 AM
Willowgerl, what a super comment. To be honest, all the tracker drama just cracks me up. I, of course, don't contribute to it, but I'd certainly rather read about what's going on here than watch a soap opera! haha.
Body for Life Forum Message by jeremy (1037 posts) at 10:18 AM
kmatche if you read your post you will see that you are being closed minded. I think it is so funny that people will say you are closed minded for this and for that ;and then the closed minded people accept what you are saying because we are open minded. We are tyring to understand
Body for Life Forum Message by chuckdiesel99 (735 posts) at 10:51 AM
PG-13 is fine.
kmachate: Im not "ultra right-winged" and im certainly not "holier than thou"
I dont like labels and I think anyone who puts them on people is wrong. Rarely does one person fit into a single categeory.
Body for Life Forum Message by michiganmike (170 posts) at 11:34 AM
I've had Kmachate on ignore for quite some time now, as I found his attitude a bit abrasive and angry, especially since he found out he didn't win. I take it he said something nasty again? Shocking!
Body for Life Forum Message by LOVE4KIDS (28 posts) at 11:42 AM
I don't think it has anything to do with being "holier than thou" or "ultra right winged" I think it has everything to do with having class and being respectful of others. Karyn
Body for Life Forum Message by Flower (2028 posts) at 01:27 PM
As with the above, I can't stress enough with typing just how excellent willowgerl's comment was. I'm not jumping on the "bandwagon" but really folks could anyone have said it better. Willowgerl's comments are dead on and if we all had half a brain we would realize that & leave it at that. But oh no, we won't be doing that will we. Are we really going to start sensoring? What if a person just slightly steps over the PG13 line? This is really so ridiculous.
While I might not say fuck'em as kmachate says because I have learned the hard way - it has no impact other than to ostracize myself. But at the same time I can't help but go back to what has been said in the past - simply put - adult language being offensive? How, just how are you people that are so deeply offended by such, dealing with the real world? Where are your jobs? Have you been exposed to the real world? Don't start yapping about you don't need to use that kind of language to get your point across, blah, blah, blah. Of course you don't, its just the 21st century and thats just the way it is, lets all get a grip.......please.
I'm all over the place, I know this but debating such issues just boggles my mind. Again, I'm all over the place but another couple things that crossed my mind - the movie Pulp Fiction would be considered an awful movie by some? Does anyone really (I mean really) know what that movie is about? Are you so very offended by the terrible language that you missed the point????? For the "holier than thou" people if you missed it you missed something big. - it has something way more to offer than crude language used creatively. If you need an explanation as to what you missed, I will gladly enlighten you.
As far as "kids" seeing this. I don't think kids belong here. Its an adult forum. Kids should be out playing - running, jumping, biking, skating, rollerblading - something physical not sitting on their fat asses (like us!) searching a computer looking for support in having to loose weight because of what our screwed up society has taught them as far as eating habits.
michiganmike - I like you and respect you, but to say what he has said is shocking, its not, just common every day things that are said. I don't have a problem with PG13, if I want a juvenile site I'll go to nickkids.com or nicleodeon.com or disney. It its x rated or r rated as long as its somewhat funny, creative or at least whitty I'm okay.
This post is to be just read and considered, not judged. For the love of God, give me the strength to just shut-up and watch LOL. There's got to be others that are feeling the same as me.
Tracey
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (377 posts) at 01:47 PM
You can do it flower. I've stayed out of it. Funny thing is there has been no R rated or x rated (whatever your viewpoint)discussions since the 13th but somehow this is still beating a deadhorse. I don't get it.
Body for Life Forum Message by Jen in Maine (Self-Removed Member) (31 posts) at 01:53 PM
This is really a waste of time. I have never posted in one of these discussions before and I won't be back to read any more of this stuff. It was a good try, Mike, but it doesn't look like you're going to get anywhere.
I don't think tracker will be good for my mental health. You are who your friends are and I'm just as susceptible to these conversations and crude jokes as the next person. The only way to keep my focus on what's right is to choose what I spend my time doing and who I spend it with.
I, for one, have enough problems on my own without getting sidetracked by stuff like this.
Mike tried to help and give a different perspective. If people really wanted to hear it, that would be great...otherwise, I don't think he or anyone else is obligated to keep on trying to explain to people whose minds are closed.
And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,
2 Timothy 2:24
so this right-wing, holier than thou, homeschoolin' mama of four who should have never joined in the 1st place iiiiissss outta here!
have fun all,
Merry Christmas - may you find Christ,
Jen
Body for Life Forum Message by Moggie (591 posts) at 01:56 PM
Firstly I agree with the intent of Michiganmike's post and like the others think G rated might be a little too tame.
Ultimately for me, it comes down to the Tracker Code of Conduct. (there are probably some who may be thinking right now that I can take the code of conduct and shove it up the same place Persephone's magnifying glass went :)
It isn't my site. I didn't write the COC, all I can do is interpret what the Webmaster meant when he wrote it. Just as you are all free to interpret it your way. Until the Webmaster steps up to the plate and takes a more active role in what he intended when he wrote the COC, we can be left debating what we all feel is acceptable for tracker until the cows come home *mooooo*
I have seen in the past where the Webmaster has shut down certain threads because he felt they were unproductive. He has the ability to step in and do something. From what I have seen, he hasn't been around since the middle of November. Is he choosing to just let this die down? Is he OK with the threads that some of us have found objectionable? Or has he just not been around to see what is going on here? I don't know and frankly, I am a little disappointed that he permits these flare-ups to continue. They happen on a regular basis and in all honesty, I'm sick of them.
I don't know what the solution is. I suppose I can take my toys and go play in another sand box or I can continue to fight for what I believe the Webmaster intended when he set up this site. In so doing though, I will be perpetuating the very flare-ups that I find so draining.
Webmaster are you out there?
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (377 posts) at 01:58 PM
Jen I trued to PM you but you were already gone. I wish you would not have left. I was only trying to say that they have already won the argument so why keep wasting all their time and energy repeating the topic.
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (377 posts) at 01:59 PM
Moggie don't you go anywhere either.
Body for Life Forum Message by chuckdiesel99 (735 posts) at 02:04 PM
Everyone will find something offensive at some point.
I didnt like the above "may you find Christ" comment. To that all I can say is I hope YOU find chirst and if you do please let me know where he is hiding.
Point is, we all need to be adults. Flower hit the nail on head. This is the real world. Shit happens. Suck it up or leave is all I can say. Just keep the ad hominem attacks to yourself.
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (377 posts) at 02:11 PM
Hey Chuck talking about everyone finding something offensive. I work in the entertainment buz, We have Xmas trees and Menorahs all already the complex. There was a presentation for a former Isreali prime minister. A woman complained that there was no Menorrahs and all these Christmas trees. But she failed to see the Menorahs in her own pictures that she had taken. We had to point them out to her.
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (377 posts) at 02:12 PM
I forgot to mention that she was ranting and raving about the trees.
Body for Life Forum Message by scotfarcus (5 posts) at 02:57 PM
I am a once removed member due to how the environment changed after the 15 finalists were picked. It was wierd, and I had to take a break...Anyway I found that this site IS a place of inspiration, inspiration that I NEED! I learned that I am addicted to food, I am not consistant and that even after a pretty successful I learned that I haven't made BFL and EFL a lifetime change. It is an amazing way to live, and I miss it AND I need your support, your ideas and great helpfull threads that keep the motivation alive. Please understand that I do get offended, yet I do have a sense of humor and I would love to have a PG-13 environment here and understand that it won't always be...I just know that this site helpled me more than I realized throughout my rigerous 12 weeks and I thank you all. So if I'm still welcome, I'd like to come back.
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (377 posts) at 03:08 PM
I always say everyone is welcome and I really wish people wouldn't leave unless they truely need to leave but don't leave under these bad terms. welcome back scotfarcus!
Body for Life Forum Message by gbfan (317 posts) at 03:24 PM
Welcome back, scotfarcus!
My two cents... I have teenage sons who I would like to see get involved with BFL. Are they heavy and NEED a site to inspire them to lose weight? No. But, I want them to learn to incorporate a good healthy exercise/eating regime into their lives and if they choose to come to Tracker for inspiration or information... I don't think they need to see many of the threads that are here. Then again, I have MTV blocked out of my house.
I cannot find anywhere on this site that it is for ADULTS only. Am I missing that somewhere? I don't think 3rd graders need to be on here for any reason, but there might be teenagers lurking. There will never be anything left by me that would be inappropriate or questionable in nature. That's my moral standard. That may be too much for some, but that is how I live my life.
I've also been trying to sell my bosses on this program for the last year and to be honest, I doubt the two "pastors" would be interested in many of these discussions. So, this site is not shared with many of my friends... and that's a shame, because I get a lot of inspiration, encouragement and information from many of you.
I would choose to keep to the business at hand and have a "fitness site" as the forum rules call it.
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (377 posts) at 03:29 PM
Not rtying to be confrontational but it is stated somewhere that you have to be 18 years old. As soon as I find that exact wording and where it is located I will let you know.
Body for Life Forum Message by gbfan (317 posts) at 03:33 PM
I will not take it as confrontational, crone, just helpful.
Body for Life Forum Message by Moggie (591 posts) at 03:37 PM
Crone, it says that when you sign on to be a member.
I may be mistaken but when you verify that you are 18, you are also agreeing to abide by the Code of Conduct. The COC says that this is a fitness site and that "Off Topic (OT) are not prohibited, but should be posted within reason. There are some topics that are not appropriate for the forums."
As I said above...just what the Webmaster intended with that is open for interpretation.
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (377 posts) at 03:38 PM
actually I tried a couple of things. It's when you create a profile. It won't let you put in anything under the age of 18. So if your under 18 all you have to do is put in age 18.
Body for Life Forum Message by kmachate (Self-Removed Member) (631 posts) at 04:00 PM
You peolpe make ma laugh. :)
Silly humans! =D
Body for Life Forum Message by DreamCatcher (622 posts) at 04:03 PM
Mike: I commend your effort at trying to make this forum an even keel that everyone can enjoy! I am not an individual that gets upset easily, nor do I easily get offended. I understand that language varies from person to person. Although I do not use profanity in my everyday life, I do realize that others do, for I am not sheltered by any means. I do not choose to use vulgar or obscene words, nor do I condemn others for using them. I do understand why other people get offended though. I like Willogirls comments. I think they can add "spice" so to speak in certain situations. When I don't find it appropriate, is when there doesn't seem to be any purpose or substance behind it, other than just to use them. That is just me though, and I don't expect anyone to think/believe as I do.
Flower: You know I love you girl, but I'm going to have to disagree with you on the children issue. My daughter has been struggling with her weight since she hit puberty, has been eating EFL with us for quite some time and I'd like her to keep an interest in it. I'd much rather have my children reading about health and fitness than playing games on the computer, especially during the winter months when it's too cold for them to be outside. I'm not saying this should become a childrens site, no, not at all. But if you think about it, just how many websites are out there geared towards overweight children? I mean, we are supposed to be setting an example to them, right? Do I let her park herself here? No, but I do share some of the pics with her, or read some threads that may hit home with her. It's still up to the parent to monitor the children and their time spent on the internet. So to that extent, I'd like to keep sharing some of the more useful threads with her while she is going through her own struggles.
I think the point is, if we all just try to clean it up a little, there would be less people getting upset over misunderstandings that could easily be avoided.
and last but not least:
Kmachate: What happened to you? You used to be pretty cool and very supportive and had good advise to give. Lately though you have been cynical and downright obnoxious. Where did that guy go? I kind of miss him!
Jennifer
Body for Life Forum Message by Flower (2028 posts) at 04:15 PM
Jennifer (DreamCatcher) - you're right! Of course!!!! That was far too harsh, crude & obnoxious and I apologize. My angle was one sided and to look at it from the point of view that you are making, I should have considered that. Again, I apologize.
Just out of curiosity, why didn't anyone make any comments to what I wrote in reference to Pulp Fiction? Again I am just curious; and moreso, does anyone/everyone know what was in "the box"?
Body for Life Forum Message by DreamCatcher (622 posts) at 04:19 PM
I didn't comment on it specifically because I know exactly what you are talking about, hence my comments geared towards profanity is really not my thing, but with substance or "spice" so to speak, I can easily overlook language that is not necessarily my taste. My opinion on profanity is not religious, just a choice for me. But I can still enjoy a good movie or conversations provided there IS intellect behind it! So...there you have it..I agree!
Body for Life Forum Message by Bflmom2004 (986 posts) at 04:30 PM
Alright Tracey, lol...I'll bite, now be nice, cause you already know that I am a right wing conservative, and I didn't like the movie (but not cause of the language...just didn't like it) but I do want to know what the heck was in the box...enlighten away sista...
Body for Life Forum Message by havlow (151 posts) at 04:32 PM
Jennifer I'll second what you're saying. Michiganmike and Flower both make excellent points but I think we need to get those points into a more central position as we all come from different backgrounds, religious viewpoints and political beliefs...all of which in my opinion have nothing to do with fitness. If you're going to use profanity make sure it counts...don't go setting off F-bombs and saying fart all the time just because you can. If you want to tell pray for someone or let someone know that god is important to you then please do so in a way that is supportive instead of judgemental or might be taken as forcing a conversion to that belief. All in all we're smart intelligent people and in the middle of a debate that frankly should have been taken care of by the webmaster. If you're gonna post make it count...if you're just going to make silly inane comments then you're just wasting calories that could be better used elsewhere.
Body for Life Forum Message by Flower (2028 posts) at 04:54 PM
I'll pm you Christie.
Just one person, just one, does anyone know what was in "the box"?
Body for Life Forum Message by Supa K (746 posts) at 04:58 PM
his soul
Body for Life Forum Message by Flower (2028 posts) at 05:02 PM
thank you
not many people know that
Body for Life Forum Message by Flower (2028 posts) at 05:03 PM
I should have known you'd know and if anyone would respond it would be you LOL
Body for Life Forum Message by scotfarcus (5 posts) at 05:31 PM
This is a great thread.
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (377 posts) at 05:46 PM
Another one bites the dust. I don't want another person to leave. If you do I will hunt you down, drag you back kicking and screaming. Do you think I'm kidding?
Body for Life Forum Message by ocpanther65 (137 posts) at 07:11 PM
Hey everyone there are some really good and cool and fun forums on the other parts of this site. You should all check them out. Oh and for all of you that are dropping out of the site, I'll bring you the red coolaid tomorrow. Get a grip everyone, use this site for what its intended for and thats a tool for this lifestyle. There is no censorship here but people should think before they post and some are actually just as offended by religious rants as swearing so keep that shi...(stuff) to yourself unless like stated earlier that its in good taste. I for one am taking tracker to sirius satellite radio with Stern, who's with me:) Everyone lighten up and realize that you are all only hurting yourselves by getting all fired up so get your panties out of a bunch (can I say that) and start being helpfull to others!
Body for Life Forum Message by Young Guns (1518 posts) at 07:44 PM
Why is it that this subject keeps comming up all the time? Starting to get a bit rediculous.
Body for Life Forum Message by T~N~T (800 posts) at 08:03 PM
Yea I would have to say I agree with several people on here. Personally G rated would drive me nuts and would be about as boring as can be. Because
a) I know everyone would be forcing the nicey nice kinda like the stepford wives running around here. And well I have a 2 year old and I live in a G world most of the time. I like being an adult. But I do respect others as well. I think PG-13 is a good happy medium. Personally I like to comment when I get my ass kicked in the gym.
b) I just try to ignore all the drama but it is annoying when it seems to be a stupid game of who can be the crudest and all that crap. It is just so pointless and well I agree with Shanette I just try to stay out of it. It's like a good soap opera and makes me laugh when I do actually read some of it. It used to make me mad then I realized OMG I am letting a stupid computer get me riled up WTF? How stupid.
c) I think if the people that want to support fitness re-lated or supportive threads then stick with those threads and respond to those and support those. Thats how they stay up top. Eventually all the poo poo should go away when they find that no-one cares about all the other pointless stuff. And if they do then well they have each other to talk to. Simple enough. Right? Any of this make sense?
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (377 posts) at 08:05 PM
Total sense.
Body for Life Forum Message by gbfan (317 posts) at 08:18 PM
Good point, TNT. That's the way I approach every thread on here. If I can help in some way, I try to chime in. If not, I'm not involved.
There will never be a way that all of us that are members will agree with "right vs. wrong". We all have too many varying degrees of standards. The fact that people can get offended by someone asking people to tone things down a bit baffles me... especially when if you count the times that profanity or risque comments have been made on here they far outweigh the times people have actually stepped to the plate and been the lone voice speaking for many. It takes a big person to step up like that... but I agree that this site should be used to promote BFL, better health and a better way of life... we are a support group and that should be the ultimate goal.
Body for Life Forum Message by snowboardingfairy (118 posts) at 09:39 AM
I was just curious how some of you were proposed to? Mine was so touching, I thought I would share...
Jason and I live in Colorado, at the foothills of the Rockies. Hiking and camping are the norm for us, so I didn't think anything of us going hiking for the day. He took me Rifle Falls and we went on a 2hr hike. The day was sunny and beautiful. As we were leaving, we decided to sit on a bench under the backside of the waterfall. I was sitting there taking it all in, when he got down on one knee. I was sure he was tying his shoe laces. I was so blind-sided when out came a diamond. He told me he loves me more than anything in this world and asked if I would spend the rest of my life with him? Of course I said yes, and out of his backpack came a bottle of champagne and glasses he'd been carrying all morning!! So sneaky...He later took me to Hanging Lake ( this place should be the 8th wonder of the world) and then to Glenwood Hot Springs for a night in the Honeymoon suite. We went out for a romantic dinner, and a long hot soak in the hot springs, where it began to rain...it was sooo romantic. That was last June, we will be getting married this April. The day he proposed was one of the best days in my life...
Body for Life Forum Message by Shannette22 (623 posts) at 09:52 AM
Ohhhh! Great topic! I loved my proposal!!! My hubby put together a little Easter egg hunt for me in his backyard, the weekend of Easter. I didn't really think anything of it, because he is the type to do cute little things like that for me. Well, he started the hunt by reading clues to me to find each egg.....when he busted out all these clues to read to me, I was thinking "hmmmm...this seems kind of serious...." So, the last clue he gave me was, "when you love someone as much as I love you, it's time to do something BIG." So, this directed me to this huge Easter egg in the yard....I walked over to the big egg and there was a little piece of paper sticking out of it that said, "hold out your hand." That's when he hit one knee....it was awesome!!! And the best part is that his parents were hiding behing the fence taking pics of the whole thing!! So, if you're interested, check them out!!
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/bsteele101/detail?.dir=/f611&.dnm=0b1c.jpg&.src=ph
Body for Life Forum Message by snowboardingfairy (118 posts) at 10:39 AM
I tried to look at your pics, but it wouldn't open:( What a great story though!! I have an online photo album of mine as well, don't know if it'll work, but here it is:
http://www.kodakgallery.com/BrowsePhotos.jsp?&collid=43221279108&page=1&sort_order=0
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (377 posts) at 10:48 AM
Hey snow, i was able to open Shannette's photo, I was unable to open yours.
Body for Life Forum Message by Frau Von Heute (80 posts) at 11:07 AM
now this is a good thread!! here's my story. i met my husband on a blind date about 2 months before i was supposed to leave to move to italy for a year. we planned on just having some good company before i left, but 2 weeks into our "fling" i asked him as a joke, to come with me to italy, 2 days later he said sure why not(hes a italian citizen btw, so it was easy to get him to come along!) and 1.5 months later we were living in florence. but when he proposed was on thanksgiving about 6 months into our relationship, we went to my universities dinner party with our friends and roomates, then afterwards we went to a local pub. while we were there with everyone he bought me a rose and a cd from a street vendor (he hadnt done anything like that before) and we hung out at the pub for a while. then we decided to go back to the apt, when we got in he put on the cd and we started talking about our relationship, and how much he loved me, then out of nowhere he says "alexis, will you be my wife. will you marry me?" i almost choked! i said yes, but we had no ring then. he ended up going down to southern italy to ask his father for one of his mothers rings to give me, he came back and we went to venice for my birthday a few weeks later, and he got down on 1 knee in a puddle, on this little bridge and gave me a proper proposal. and i said yes again! we were engaged for about 3 years,and got married this past april in north miami beach. so far we are loving married life! (except for the pounds i put on after the wedding lol!!)
alexis
Body for Life Forum Message by snowboardingfairy (118 posts) at 11:56 AM
OOps, here is the correct website to view pics, if your interested, there are quite a few, as the landscape was so beautiful!!
http://www.kodakgallery.com/hayke/my_engagement_album
Body for Life Forum Message by Supa K (746 posts) at 11:53 AM
I've recently been introduced to this man, born in Lebanon in 1883. He immigrated to New York in 1912 and wrote a series of books. The one I'm reading is "The Prophet."
It's the story, or verse, rather, of a man who is left on an island and lives among the people there for years, all the while waiting for his ship to come bring him home. When it does arrive, he is met by the townspeople who have come to know and love him, and each asks him to teach them about important aspects of life -- like children, love, marriage, work and religion.
It is a wonderful book -- a very short read.
Here's a passage, about prayer:
"When you pray, you rise to meet in the air
those who are praying at that very hour, and
whom save in prayer you may not meet."
Body for Life Forum Message by Persephone (362 posts) at 12:02 PM
I love this man's stuff.
Here's a link to his bio and his work!
http://leb.net/gibran/
(hope this works)
P
Body for Life Forum Message by Thisisit! AKA BubbleButt (328 posts) at 12:15 PM
We used a passage from the book when we had our children dedicated in our church.
Body for Life Forum Message by Go4steffie (729 posts) at 12:37 PM
I read that book a few years ago. I loved the chapters on love and marriage. Actually, my brother got married earlier this year and my father read the passage about marriage. It was perfect!
Stef :-)
Body for Life Forum Message by Flower (2028 posts) at 12:55 PM
Never heard of him, never heard of "The Prophet". From reading your comments (the above), yet another fine example of why O/T category should remain.
Body for Life Forum Message by Karla (445 posts) at 05:57 PM
Tracey - Okay okay! We'll keep the O/T catergory. Geez! :))))))
Karenna - I've not heard of that book. Thanks for the recommendation. I've been looking for something good to read.
Body for Life Forum Message by Thisisit! AKA BubbleButt (328 posts) at 06:00 PM
This is the chapter on children...
And a woman who held a babe against her bosom said, "Speak to us of Children."
And he said:
Your children are not your children.
They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself.
They come through you but not from you,
And though they are with you, yet they belong not to you.
You may give them your love but not your thoughts.
For they have their own thoughts.
You may house their bodies but not their souls,
For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow, which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams.
You may strive to be like them, but seek not to make them like you.
For life goes not backward nor tarries with yesterday.
You are the bows from which your children as living arrows are sent forth.
The archer sees the mark upon the path of the infinite, and He bends you with His might that His arrows may go swift and far.
Let your bending in the archer's hand be for gladness;
For even as He loves the arrow that flies, so He loves also the bow that is stable.
Body for Life Forum Message by Flower (2028 posts) at 06:01 PM
ha, ha, well then that settles that then - whew
Body for Life Forum Message by Karla (445 posts) at 06:20 PM
Thanks for the excerpt , ThisIsIt! Do you have that memorized? :)
And Tracey, any time you are worried and need me to straighten things out for you, just let me know. :)
Body for Life Forum Message by snowboardingfairy (118 posts) at 12:32 PM
Just curious if any of you tracker folks will be attending? Myself and Megansmom plan on being there. Anyone else???
Body for Life Forum Message by Supa K (746 posts) at 02:23 PM
I was thinking about it, but have recently enrolled in college (again!), so I'll be doing the homework thing.
Say a little prayer to the gods of algebraic equations for me, please!
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (377 posts) at 02:28 PM
OOOHHHH the good ole days. I wish you luck K. I wish I could go to Denver, but with the chances of being snowed in Denver and snowed out of Cleveland I can't afford to be delayed. Why in Jan.? Wish it could be at least in March.
Body for Life Forum Message by michiganmike (170 posts) at 03:21 PM
I think it is in January because that is the time of the year that the most people in this country have fitness on their minds. Weatherwise, it stinks, but otherwise, as far as getting people to come and get inspired at the beginning of their new transformation, it's probably the best.
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (377 posts) at 03:23 PM
Well that makes sense. I should have thought of that I was just worried about the weather.
Body for Life Forum Message by tinkerbell (311 posts) at 07:21 PM
The chances of getting snowed-in in Denver aren't any higher than any other place that gets snow in the winter.
I'm planning on driving from Cincinnati on Jan. 5th to Denver (my hometown) with my 5 year old and I'm sure it will be fine. I'm checking the weather before I leave because I don't want to get snowed-in on I-70 in the middle of Kansas.
So, if everything works out, I will be there!!!
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (377 posts) at 07:26 PM
I know it just happen to be the timing of the event. If I go & get snowed in or out I could very well lose my job. So I wish it could be a different time of year or a warmer place like Hawaii in Jan.
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (377 posts) at 07:27 PM
Beside being in Cincinnati in winter and being in Cleveland in winter you would tkink we lived on opposites ends of the country.
Body for Life Forum Message by tinkerbell (311 posts) at 08:01 PM
Yes, I know what you mean crone. I lived in Northern Illinois for a few winters and I'll take Cincy anyday. It's so weird to me how a few hundred miles can make such a big difference. It's not worth it if you might lose your job, that stinks!! I think they do it in Denver because EAS is headquartered there. Maybe we will see you at the Arnold Classic??
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (377 posts) at 08:03 PM
When is the Arnold classic? I know its in Columbus. I could deal with that one.
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (377 posts) at 08:11 PM
Nevermind found out March 3-5.
Body for Life Forum Message by Supa K (746 posts) at 02:27 PM
For me, it's those darn peanut butter cookie with the Hershey's Kiss or Brach's chocolate star stuck in the middle.
Dangerous.
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (377 posts) at 02:29 PM
Butter Cookies. They are so hard to find. I refuse to bake because the batch never makes it onto a cookie tray to be cooked.
Body for Life Forum Message by Supa K (746 posts) at 02:30 PM
hehe -- my husband is too scared of raw eggs to eat cookie dough. Can you imagine?!
Body for Life Forum Message by snowboardingfairy (118 posts) at 02:32 PM
sugar cookies otherwise known as crack
Body for Life Forum Message by Karla (445 posts) at 02:34 PM
Chocolate chip oatmeal cookies...YUM! No raisins, no nuts for me.
Cookie dough...I always worry about the raw eggs, too...but it tastes so good, I risk it anyway.
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (377 posts) at 02:37 PM
I passed on a cookie tray at work. I was tying my shoe and the woman asked and never looked up at the tray. The a coworker said the magical word 'baklava' my head snapped up so fast I could have given myself whiplash
Body for Life Forum Message by Flower (2028 posts) at 02:38 PM
Oh would you please go to my blog & try those darn chocolate globs then tell us what your favourite Christmas cookie is :))
Body for Life Forum Message by Karla (445 posts) at 02:40 PM
ha ha Crone. :)
I pass up cookies at work in one of two ways:
1) I pretend that whoever made them did not wash their hands before making them.
2) I pretend that people got to the coookie tray before I did, picked up each cookie and put it down before deciding on which one they wanted (and had not washed their hands before doing so).
In both scenarios, the guilty party used the bathroom immediately before not washing their hands.
hey - it could happen! :)
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (377 posts) at 02:41 PM
I had to stop at Oreo's. I eat one of the jumbo packages in one sitting. They are a trigger. Stay far far away.
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (377 posts) at 02:43 PM
Well your right Karla, it could've happened. but no one touched the baklava. (((wink, wink)))
Body for Life Forum Message by tinkerbell (311 posts) at 02:55 PM
I discovered a new favorite at allrecipes...Big Soft Ginger Cookies, these are to die for!!! Here is the recipe http://cookie.allrecipes.com/az/BigSoftGingerCookies.asp
I can't take it anymore, I'm going to make some right now!!
Body for Life Forum Message by LeoGirl (186 posts) at 04:45 PM
Like a good scot I love shortbread mmmmmm.
Body for Life Forum Message by Bflmom2004 (986 posts) at 04:47 PM
Karla, I am right with ya girl...no raisins or nuts for me either, but give me a choc. chip cookie any ole day, oatmeal, or standard, I am good...lol
Body for Life Forum Message by Supa K (746 posts) at 04:55 PM
Oh, yeah -- I gained a few pounds reading the cookies recipes you wrote, Flower.
I remember last season's Oreo Ball escapades on this site.
Body for Life Forum Message by Flower (2028 posts) at 05:01 PM
Oh K - I just messed up. Nobody seemed to make the stupid chocolate globs - so I did. Arrggghhh!
The only good thing that came out of it was that I told Chloe they were chocolate poo poo, she didn't believe me so I said they were chocolate covered turds. There was no way she was touching them even after I told her they were extra special Christmas treats. Now I'm stuck with the whole pan.....4 down 14 to go then I'm tackling the oreo cookie balls - so EFL friendly :(
Body for Life Forum Message by Supa K (746 posts) at 05:03 PM
Wait a minute: You told your four-year-old you were eating special coco turds?!
Body for Life Forum Message by Flower (2028 posts) at 05:05 PM
Yup and it worked - she doesn't want any ha, ha.
5 down
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (377 posts) at 05:08 PM
Bad Flower, Bad Flower
Body for Life Forum Message by Flower (2028 posts) at 05:12 PM
you're right, I feel sick I think - nice job Flower
Body for Life Forum Message by Lala (633 posts) at 05:31 PM
ooops on chocolate turds Flower!
LMAO!!! Ok... i'll make them.. I promise..I'll get the kids to come up with a BETTER name than THAT! LOL..
Tune in tomorrow ...
BTW...my personal fave is a pecan & chocolate chunk cookie that should be illegal!!! yummmmmm !
Pamela*
Body for Life Forum Message by havlow (151 posts) at 05:39 PM
Aw Geez K...you're killing me here. I forgot all about cookies, cookie dough...man I'm going to be weighing the plane down when I get back home from my parents. Sheesh!!
Body for Life Forum Message by FV Tom (80 posts) at 06:31 PM
I'm sorta glad this topic came up because I kinda wanted to brag. My lovely wife (who eats EFL but does her own daily workout) is making molasses cookies as we speak. I love molasses cookies. She's making them because her folks are coming for dinner tonight. Fortunately, this is my free day. BUT I'm waiting to have one, just one, for dessert. My house smells so good right now. I can't even tell you!
Tom
Body for Life Forum Message by Karla (445 posts) at 03:12 PM
This game is compltely fantastic!!! I'm on the edge of my seat.
Being from Indiana, gotta love the Colts.
But, gotta love Drew Brees...cuz he played for Purdue (my alma mater).
I'm sure all true fans are not posting on tracker right now. I'm multi-tasking.
Now, back to the game. Go Chargers! Go Colts!
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (377 posts) at 03:13 PM
Oh sorry. I'm watching the Browns and Raider. Go Browns!!!!!!
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (377 posts) at 03:21 PM
Yje Chargers have won, The Colts are now 13-1
Body for Life Forum Message by Karla (445 posts) at 05:55 PM
Yeah, I've still got mixed feelings about this.
Well, if anyone was going to beat the Colts, I'd want it to be the Chargers. Besides, the Chargers really needed this win to have a chance to be in the playoffs. And now, there's less pressure on the Colts for the playoffs. I hope they win The Super Bowl!
Body for Life Forum Message by FV Tom (80 posts) at 06:12 PM
Never bet the house against California teams!
Tom
P.S. I'm not a Chargers fan. I used to be a rabid Rams fan until there owner stole them from us and moved to St Louis.
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (377 posts) at 06:24 PM
The Browns won against the Raiders/ Go Browns
Body for Life Forum Message by FV Tom (80 posts) at 06:28 PM
Well, alright then. A lot us here would rather that the Raiders weren't in California!
Of course, most of Northern California wishes it wasn't in California anyway: "the Republic of San Francisco"
Go Browns!
Body for Life Forum Message by Udenia (2074 posts) at 04:23 PM
Yes I said it, even when the child has pneumonia, he finds a way to make my life even more challenging., I looked outside and saw my Santa Claus had turned over, it is really windy today, so I stepped out the front door and stood him back up (2 sec) and my child was already across the living room and came up behind me and SHUT THE DOOR!
I am standing outside with my socks on, looking in at him watching SHREK!!!!! I didn't panic right away because I wasn't cooking but I could not find a way in, lucky my neighbors saw me and called security and within about 10 minutes they were there and let me in,
I went straight over to Cameron and started crying, hugging him,,,, he don't get it but I sure as hell do.
That scared the hell out of me, I guess I need to hide a key or give one to a neighbor....
I thought I was done with challenges, with Autism, Pneumonia and now getting locked out of the house....
WHEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (377 posts) at 04:27 PM
I think he was mad about the medicine. But I'm glad security was there to let you in. I know someplaces you are SOL on sundays. Glad everything worked ou alright.
Body for Life Forum Message by Lala (633 posts) at 05:33 PM
oh geeees Udenia!!! Glad that worked out for you!! aren't toddlers/ preschoolers a JOY!?! Good Grief! eh??
It'll get better hon..promise!
Body for Life Forum Message by GlennH (63 posts) at 05:36 PM
Julie's condition is grave.
She has been bleeding profusely. They have given her well over 100 units of blood.
Her heart is not functioning adequately. She is on a heart-lung machine. Her heart valves were not in as good of condition as was thought.
Because of the massive amounts of blood loss, the surgeon is concerned about organ damage, especially the brain.
To continue their efforts, they are going to begin testing Julie's brain function and her reaction to stimulus.
This is a critical time. I know there were some reports earlier about Julie's condition was good, but that simply wasn't the case. From the moment the surgery began, there were major complications.
Dr. Davis and the entire Duke medical staff have put in an heroic effort. I sincerely appreciate their tremendous work.
Please continue to pray for Julie. Beg the Lord for His merciful intercession. She will need another miracle to survive.
Words simply cannot express how much Julie means to me. She is my life. She is my love. She is my family. The pain in simply unbearable.
Please pray for Julie.
Body for Life Forum Message by GlennH (63 posts) at 05:48 PM
Once again, she is defying the odds. I just saw this post on the BFL site. Stephanie, thanks for the update.
JULIE UPDATE: 6:30PM SUNDAY
It has been determined that Julie seems to have appropriate brain function. She was able to respond to stimuli, move limbs and squeeze hands on command. This is a big hurdle as the doctors were very concerned about brain function given the amount of blood loss she had. Julie is again defying all odds. The eyes of the world are focused on Duke University and their transplant team. They are a small team of heroes who have stayed constantly by Julie’s side. Again I ask to please continue with prayers. Sincerely, Stephanie
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (377 posts) at 05:50 PM
Thanks for the updates Glenn & Stephanie. I will be keeping her and her family in my thoughts and prayers.
Body for Life Forum Message by willowgerl (207 posts) at 05:56 PM
Thank you for the updates, Glenn. I'll continue to pray for her.
Body for Life Forum Message by Kerry (929 posts) at 05:59 PM
Folks, I certainly appreciate the updates, my heart goes out to Julie and all those who know her.
Body for Life Forum Message by Karla (445 posts) at 06:00 PM
Yes, thanks for updating. I really think she can pull through this!!!
Body for Life Forum Message by rbsamy (315 posts) at 06:01 PM
Thanks for keeping us up to date.
Body for Life Forum Message by Flower (2028 posts) at 06:01 PM
I was so not expecting this.
Body for Life Forum Message by T~N~T (800 posts) at 06:09 PM
Thank you thank you!
Body for Life Forum Message by LittleBig (14 posts) at 06:38 PM
Praying here.
Body for Life Forum Message by Bflmom2004 (986 posts) at 06:39 PM
My thoughts and prayers are with everyone involved, especially Matt, what a horrible time for him...
Body for Life Forum Message by twinmom (291 posts) at 06:43 PM
I have been thinking about her all day. Praying for hope!
Come on Julie, fight...hit your tens girl!
Body for Life Forum Message by cookie1135 (1185 posts) at 06:49 PM
Thanks for the update! I'm still praying for Julie and her family!
Hugs,
Sylvia aka Cookie1135
Body for Life Forum Message by Dana D (474 posts) at 08:21 PM
Thank you for the update. I have been thinkin about and praying for Julie all day. I really had problems concentrating at work because I am soooo worried about her and Matt.
My prayers will continue to be sent. We love you Julie and Matt!!!
Body for Life Forum Message by jeremy (1037 posts) at 08:25 PM
I will plead with the Lord. I know HE can help her.
Body for Life Forum Message by GET*HER*DONE (2751 posts) at 09:15 PM
we are all Pleading, Jeremy, we love Julie so much, God please hear our prayers
Body for Life Forum Message by jeremy (1037 posts) at 09:51 PM
Lets remember to pray for Matt and the rest of the family.
Body for Life Forum Message by SimpleButterfly (226 posts) at 10:21 PM
I don't even know Julie personally, but I have been following her progress over the past few months.
That woman is strong! So is her family!
Matt & both families, we're thinking about you and praying for all of you.
I'm sure Julie will fight with everything she has. Have faith!
Connie
Body for Life Forum Message by Fiona Oceangirl (41 posts) at 02:58 AM
Hi everyone, sorry for the delay, after my cottage pie, was up in cloud 9 for few days. Ok heres the recipe.
1.Mashed potatoes,(no butter to be added)You may flavour as you like.
2.Lean steak -Minced.You may chose lean beef/ turkey/chicken breast.whatever you prefer, must be minced.cook (braise)this for a short time in spices of your choice. I do this in the microwave.
3.Mixed veges of your choice. I used frozed mixed veges.loads of them.
In a casserole dish, add half of mixed veges, you may season them if you like.
layer next with half of the minced meat/chicken/turkey.
Repeat again with veges, then rest of mince/chicken.
Last cover all with layer of mash potatoe. you may chop some chives on top. cover with cling wrap
Microwave for about 10 mins or bake in oven for about 20-30 mins. When ready, you have a great healthy meal for the entire family.Kids love it! To serve, you cut out a square as per YOUR PORTION SIZE. If I make this in a larger dish, its enough for about 6 servings. I keep the rest for later meals or freeze in individual servings for emergencies.This is the traditional way, you can add garlic/ onions on mash before grilling for another variety. Basic to remember is layer of veges, then meat(protein).then layer of mash(Carb). Its easy and the varieties are endless as you can substitute and change the ingredients and flavourings for added variety.My gran would sprinkle grated cheese on top of the mash before cooking in the oven.I leave this out. Good luck and Enjoy
Body for Life Forum Message by GET*HER*DONE (2751 posts) at 01:00 AM
I don't have a copy of the EFL book, does it have any details, such as calories, fat, carbos or protien listed for the receips or is it just understoon that this is a good meal and I would be able to choose 6 of those meals everyday if I wanted to, or are some high calorie?
thanks,
Linda
Body for Life Forum Message by Fiona Oceangirl (41 posts) at 02:22 AM
Hi Linda
The book doesnt list calories, fat, etc. You could check the Eating for Life website. I use the book for ideas and some variety. Also check on the BFL site, click on recipes and you will find loads of ideas for all 6 meals. The ones which have the BFL Authorisation stamp are the ones to go for. Email me, I have a list of my favourite recipes comiled.Hope this helps.
Body for Life Forum Message by jeremy (1037 posts) at 07:28 AM
www.calorieking.com is another good web page
Body for Life Forum Message by jeremy (1037 posts) at 10:08 AM
V sit with weight added... Flutter kicks, hangin leg raises (only for really advanced lifters) ball crunches, crunches with weight, Planks, side planks, bicycle, and many more. Remember your abs showing have very little to do with ab exercises.
Body for Life Forum Message by jeremy (1037 posts) at 10:01 AM
Usually once a week
Body for Life Forum Message by jeremy (1037 posts) at 09:52 AM
The best time is the time that works best for you
Body for Life Forum Message by jeremy (1037 posts) at 10:00 AM
Are you breathing properly? What are you eating? There could be lots of different variables here
Body for Life Forum Message by jeremy (1037 posts) at 09:58 AM
I think you overdid it as well. Overtraining can be a big issue especially for the natural athlete. And I believe the more intense a person is the more rest they should get not less.
Body for Life Forum Message by jeremy (1037 posts) at 09:55 AM
A lot of people and some of the best trainers say to strengthen the back more. My first two challenges my back was still weak and then I concentrated on really strengthening the back and it feels great. Having a strong back is difficult but I believe the stronger the back the better the posture will be. I agree pilates is great
Body for Life Forum Message by jeremy (1037 posts) at 09:43 AM
Backwards is more advanced and also more difficult. I think it is a great workout but I would be careful as you can get hurt if not done properly. Usually if a person goes at a moderate pace they should be fine. I like it because it helps strengthen the calves more. Hope this helps
Body for Life Forum Message by jeremy (1037 posts) at 09:50 AM
Now we are talking:) If you go to power systems you can buy a waited jump rope up to six lbs I believe. We have a 4lb one and my arms are burning after 30 seconds. Jumping rope and cardio boxing are great workouts from the normal HIIT
Body for Life Forum Message by jeremy (1037 posts) at 09:48 AM
I just believe 90 minutes of exersice is way to much unless you are not at a high intensity level yet. Remember the goal is to increase intensity and that can be done in many ways such as more time (the worst way) more work in the same amount of time, or finally decrease time yet do more work. I think information through IAN KING is fantastic and he talks about intensity above volume. Hope this helps
Body for Life Forum Message by SimpleButterfly (226 posts) at 10:28 PM
I'm a dork. Bottom line.
Thank you all so much for replying.
Of course, it's natural to think that I was just crying wolf, but I really did feel like I was leaving this site for good.
Then, I read about Julie and Udenia and a few others and realized that my problems are so small and I should just keep running with the golden laws of reciprocation!!!
Sorry for trying to draw attention.
Like I said...I'm a dork.
Connie
Body for Life Forum Message by DreamCatcher (622 posts) at 10:45 PM
Connie
We all have different struggles and triumps that we like to share. They are all of different magnitudes of course, but never feel bad/ashamed for posting your own triumps!
Jennifer
Body for Life Forum Message by havlow (151 posts) at 10:46 PM
Welcome back Connie :)
Body for Life Forum Message by Fiona Oceangirl (41 posts) at 08:26 AM
Recently got a copy of Oxygen for woman and love it...Theres alot of useful stuff and I want to subscibe and receive every month. Check it out
Body for Life Forum Message by GET*HER*DONE (2751 posts) at 01:07 AM
Jan 24th will be a year and last week I was in a slump for the 1st time, I just didn't want to do anything, it lasted 4 days and I cheated a lot this month, I guess it's the christmas rush, so much to go and so little time, I am back on track again, and hoping to stay that way again.
don't worry, It happenes to us all!
Linda
Body for Life Forum Message by michelle25 (9 posts) at 02:44 PM
I have been experiencing the same thing.I do not feel like working out,I am not pushing myself as hard as I used too, I am struggling with my eating. I am in a self-sabotage period and it is all in the mind and thoughts,I am letting my feelings control me..... Please read Brian Baker's blog (top 6 champion) from 12/15. I have printed it out and will carry it with me all day and plan to read it every hour. I am getting myself out if this self-defeat
Body for Life Forum Message by shibox (5 posts) at 03:31 PM
Sometimes when I'm feeling REALLY not motivated, I try to find a new class that sounds fun. Grab someone and take a salsa class, or kickboxing, or hip hop dance.. whatever sounds fun. For me, once I feel how good it feels to *move* again, it's easier to get back in the gym. Best of luck!!!
Body for Life Forum Message by Greg_H (11 posts) at 10:25 AM
I would like to get in on this mini challenge. I will also post this on the rules thread.
Body for Life Forum Message by Megan'sMom (224 posts) at 10:46 AM
Sure - I'm in, I'll need it!!!
Laurie
Body for Life Forum Message by ReenieC (116 posts) at 11:00 AM
if not too late, i'd like in too!!
Body for Life Forum Message by snowboardingfairy (118 posts) at 12:07 PM
Perfect, challenge 2 starts on Jan 2 for me too!! I'm in, and ready to kick some booty!!
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (377 posts) at 02:05 PM
I need 2 people willing to be captains
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (377 posts) at 03:09 PM
bump
Body for Life Forum Message by shibox (5 posts) at 03:33 PM
Another straggler here :) If it's not too late, I'm interested in participating as well.
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (377 posts) at 03:40 PM
We welcome stragglers. Welcome aboard. and new tracker member to boot.
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (377 posts) at 06:06 PM
bup
Body for Life Forum Message by nikki22046 (1 posts) at 06:10 PM
I'm in. Starting my first challenge.
Body for Life Forum Message by FV Tom (80 posts) at 07:08 PM
One more time ...
Body for Life Forum Message by melissab (345 posts) at 07:48 PM
Thanks GP...I hadn't posted in months and would like to see some of the same folks who were here last summer...had some very supportive and motivating people here. Looking through the posts I can see they're still here. :)
Body for Life Forum Message by Fiona Oceangirl (41 posts) at 08:25 AM
Hey Janice, way to go, I feel your excitement as I too recently fitted for the first time in 4 years in jeans....You go girl and knock them dead
Body for Life Forum Message by rbsamy (315 posts) at 08:35 AM
Hey AWeSOME news. Janice. Way to go. How exciting. I am doing happy dance with you!!!!
Body for Life Forum Message by Fiona Oceangirl (41 posts) at 08:14 AM
Just read that Julie is not doing too well. Please lets all join together and say a prayer for this incredible human being and Matt.
Body for Life Forum Message by Persephone (362 posts) at 08:16 AM
I'm praying. . .
Body for Life Forum Message by GET*HER*DONE (2751 posts) at 03:38 PM
I know I just read that too, I am praying so hard right now, Julie is an inspiration
http://fostermama13.blogspot.com/
Body for Life Forum Message by Fiona Oceangirl (41 posts) at 08:22 AM
I agree.....this holiday food is terrible...I can handle the temptation. its just that all this unauthorized stuff is practically in your face,Am dreading the next two weeks....Anyway Happy Holidays
Body for Life Forum Message by blemt (117 posts) at 08:46 AM
Restarting is never a good plan. It leads to a habit of looking for perfection in your challenge.
Perfection does not exist. We don't get do-overs in real life. Don't give yourself a "do-over" here.
I sprained my knee the end of October. You wanna talk about hard! Try figuring out how to work around that. Try figuring out how to work around that with no gym. Yes, the back can be a problem. So find a cardio workout that does not aggrivate it and do that.
You can do this. I've lost 30 pounds since beginning of September. I've stumbled along the way. I've had bad weekends, missed workouts. But I have not quit.
Yes it's hard to do BFL full tilt at the holidays. You know what? That's why you NEED to do it full tilt. Celebrate your successes, dust yourself off when you slip. This is about learning control of your life. YOU control what goes in and what comes out. Nobody else.
So the question is- just how bad do you REALLY want this? Only you have the asnwer. :)
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (377 posts) at 09:33 AM
I will setting up teams tomorrow. Although I wished I could have at least two more people willing to be captains. I would like to have smaller teams. You still have an opportunity to sign on to the January Mini Challenge.
Body for Life Forum Message by GetInShape (17 posts) at 09:59 AM
What does the team captain have to do?
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (377 posts) at 10:24 AM
You would motivate your team and collect the weekly numbers and send them to me.
Body for Life Forum Message by LeoGirl (186 posts) at 03:38 PM
Thanks for all your input! I've decided to just go for it and start my C2 on the 19th!
*~Jen~*
Body for Life Forum Message by zooman (346 posts) at 03:54 AM
Thank you for the updates and will be praying for her and her family and a speedy recovery,
Troy.
Body for Life Forum Message by Larry (129 posts) at 06:13 AM
Julie Whitt Update
Sunday, 12/18/2005 6:51 AM
This information is released at the request of Matt Whitt.
Julie’s condition is listed as critical. Another surgical procedure began early this morning. More information is available online.
http://LungsforJulieWhitt.com
Now more than ever, let us keep Julie in our prayers.
Body for Life Forum Message by Miss Fit (347 posts) at 07:14 AM
I just read about her updated condition at lungsforjuliewhitt.com and now, more than ever, am praying diligently for her recovery. Thanks so much for keep us updated.
Body for Life Forum Message by jeremy (1037 posts) at 07:26 AM
I pray that the Lord will bring her through this!!
Body for Life Forum Message by averismommy (217 posts) at 07:35 AM
I went to bed last night praying for Julie and I will continue to do so today.
Body for Life Forum Message by blemt (117 posts) at 07:53 AM
There's a song out right now called, "When I Get Where I'm Going." Brad Paisley and Dolly Parton.
It's running through my mind right now. I don't pray a lot, but right now I hope that God decideds it's not time for Julie to come home just yet.
I'm not ashamed to ask- Lord, we ask you to watch over Julie and her family. We ask you to give Matt the strength and support he needs right now. We ask you to comfort the family who's loss gave Julie this second chance. And lord, I ask you to not take my hero home just yet.
In the name of the Father, son, and holy spirit. Amen.
Body for Life Forum Message by Michelle (105 posts) at 11:39 AM
Julie is a remarkable young woman. I am not surprised that she has sparked an international prayer circle to help her through this, her ultimate challenge.
I am so proud of my BFL family. I am so moved at the outpouring of love and support.
Whether you are a religious person or not...there is a power here--beyond human the human hand.
Julie and Matt--you remain in the thoughts of my family today.
Love,
Michelle
Body for Life Forum Message by Persephone (362 posts) at 11:44 AM
Been praying all day.
Do we have an update?
I just can't imagine the suffering Julie and her family must be going through. I think of Julie with every deep breath I take. . .
Love,
P
Body for Life Forum Message by Supa K (746 posts) at 11:46 AM
Amen, blemt -- thank you for leading us.
For my prayer, I will check periodically to make sure this important note stays visible.
Hang in there, Julie! Your angelic ways are still needed here on earth.
Body for Life Forum Message by BFL4Stephanie (106 posts) at 12:09 PM
JULIE UPDATE:
Julie remains in critical condition on the heart/lung bypass machine. They have gotten the bleeding a little more under control and now they need to determine potential damage to the rest of her organs. I do not want to divulge too much detail for you all, but please know that we believe God's hand is at work. Several medical things have come to light that if found earlier would have completely prevented Julie from getting this transplant. I have to believe this means God has plans for Julie and that she will survive.
I had email from her Dad. They are exhausted beyond comprehension. Matt is overwrought. Please continue to lift them all up in prayer as I know you have been doing.
Stephanie
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (377 posts) at 12:14 PM
Thanks for the update. I will keep Julie and her family in my thoughts and prayers.
Body for Life Forum Message by GET*HER*DONE (2751 posts) at 12:26 PM
Julie is always in my heart and my prayers, She is a wonderful girl that I know God is touching her right now to make her well and come home to her family and friends real soon,
Love Linda
Body for Life Forum Message by georgiawendy (267 posts) at 12:43 PM
I'm praying for Julie, Matt, her family, and her doctors who have this precious life in their hands at this very moment.
Body for Life Forum Message by Aussiewen (57 posts) at 01:15 PM
I'll be thinking of Julie at this hard time. She is such an inspiration.
I know she will be strong enough to pull through.
Wen.
Body for Life Forum Message by Reagiesmom (296 posts) at 01:20 PM
My family will continue to pray for Julie. :) Kelli
Body for Life Forum Message by T~N~T (800 posts) at 01:31 PM
If anyone can pull off one more miracle it is God and Julie put together. I pray for this miracle.
Body for Life Forum Message by nikki (46 posts) at 01:36 PM
I just returned from Mass. I said a special prayer for Julie and her family and I will continue to pray.
Body for Life Forum Message by Supa K (746 posts) at 02:15 PM
Hoping for peace and comfort for Julie's family as they wait this out.
Body for Life Forum Message by Persephone (362 posts) at 04:23 PM
Please let us put aside our differences that don't really matter and pray for Julie!! There is an update on:
http://LungsforJulieWhitt.com
Now is not the time for silliness and tit-for-tat behaviour.
Folks, the unthinkable could happen. Please, if we don't agree on anything else, just stop and pray for Julie. I don't know when I last got on my knees to pray but I pray Julie stays with us. I don't know anything about divine plans--I just know (as far as I can understand) that the world needs more people like Julie.
For the first time in a very long time I'm going to get on my knees to pray. For Julie.
Body for Life Forum Message by LeoGirl (186 posts) at 04:42 PM
I agree lets focus on what is truly important! God bless Julie and her family.
Body for Life Forum Message by Wrecky (158 posts) at 04:47 PM
She has been on my heart all weekend. I don't think I have stopped thinking or praying for her and her family.
Body for Life Forum Message by rbsamy (315 posts) at 05:34 PM
My thoughts and prayers are with julie and her family.
Body for Life Forum Message by justdoit (198 posts) at 05:39 PM
Prayers for Julie and her family from me and my family.
Body for Life Forum Message by BFL4Stephanie (106 posts) at 05:42 PM
JULIE UPDATE: 6:30PM SUNDAY
It has been determined that Julie seems to have appropriate brain function. She was able to respond to stimuli, move limbs and squeeze hands on command.
This is a big hurdle as the doctors were very concerned about brain function given the amount of blood loss she had.
Julie is again defying all odds. The eyes of the world are focused on Duke University and their transplant team. They are a small team of heroes who have stayed constantly by Julie’s side.
Again I ask to please continue with prayers. Sincerely, Stephanie
Body for Life Forum Message by LeoGirl (186 posts) at 05:44 PM
You can do it Julie!
Body for Life Forum Message by Lala (633 posts) at 05:54 PM
Keep the updates comming.. we 'll all be praying... ALL Together :)
Pamela*
Body for Life Forum Message by FV Tom (80 posts) at 06:42 PM
Prayers, prayers, prayers ...
Body for Life Forum Message by Michelle (105 posts) at 08:23 PM
A prayer and a bump!
Body for Life Forum Message by Rod has changed his Bod (437 posts) at 09:02 PM
I have Julie and her family in my prayers.
Body for Life Forum Message by FV Tom (80 posts) at 06:43 PM
Very nice work, Pan!
Continued success!
Tom
Body for Life Forum Message by gbfan (317 posts) at 07:57 PM
Wow! What an incredible transformation so far!! You will be amazed at not only your physique, but how much healthier you feel. Keep on keeping on... you're just beginning to get a taste of what you've got ahead of you!
Body for Life Forum Message by GET*HER*DONE (2751 posts) at 12:19 AM
www.cafepress.com
Linda
Body for Life Forum Message by alvindsv (42 posts) at 08:06 AM
I looked in cafepress.com, but all I found was merchandise for BFL Mamas.com Alas, I am not a mama, but a papa. Oh well, thanks for steering me towards that site, I did find some other interesting stuff.
Brian
Body for Life Forum Message by blemt (117 posts) at 07:42 AM
Holidays, family stress, low self esteem.
Julie Whitt is in surgery right now, doing everything in her power to make it to tomorrow. That's why she's missing her workout today.
So what's your excuse for not working out and eating clean this week?
I can't find one.
Body for Life Forum Message by Dana D (474 posts) at 07:51 AM
AMEN Blemt!!
God Bless Julie and her family.
Body for Life Forum Message by FV Tom (80 posts) at 12:13 PM
And again I say AMEN.
prayers for Julie and her family
Tom
Body for Life Forum Message by georgiawendy (267 posts) at 12:38 PM
I couldn't agree more.
Body for Life Forum Message by joninstpete (130 posts) at 07:52 AM
Say a few words for Juile and her family today.
Well it is the big 40 today, Last night my sister had a brithday grathering at her house form me and my famliy. It was awesome everyone had my kinds of foods. Steak, baked taters, and freshe green beans. Then came the cake, I was so glad she had gotten an ice cream cake, ice cream is not a weakness for me. SO I had a very small slice. Some may say bad Jon and you made an excuse. Rest assure that is not the case. I do not take advanage of my free days. SO one free meal in a week is not the end of the comment I have made.
I hope every one has an awesome day and remember to hug your love ones today.
Body for Life Forum Message by blemt (117 posts) at 08:11 AM
I turn 31 on Wednesday. :) I shifted the week so I could actually have and enjoy a free meal.
Happy Birthday!
Body for Life Forum Message by Fiona Oceangirl (41 posts) at 08:19 AM
Happy belated birthday. Hope you had a great day, wow good level of commitment on sticking to your plan.
Body for Life Forum Message by Dana D (474 posts) at 08:22 AM
Happy Birthday to You
Happy Birthday to you
Happy birthday to my Wrangler-wearin Buddy Jonnnnnnnnnnnnn
Happy Birthday to you!!!!!!!!!!!
They say life starts at 40 Mannn!
Body for Life Forum Message by joninstpete (130 posts) at 02:04 PM
Thanks Dana
Body for Life Forum Message by FV Tom (80 posts) at 06:46 PM
Jon, welcome to the good side of life!
Happy Birthday!
Tom
Body for Life Forum Message by Moggie (591 posts) at 07:05 PM
Happy Birthday Jon!!!
Body for Life Forum Message by joninstpete (130 posts) at 08:31 PM
Thanks everyone
Body for Life Forum Message by T~N~T (800 posts) at 08:37 PM
Happy Birthday!
Body for Life Forum Message by SimpleButterfly (226 posts) at 11:02 PM
Happy Birthday!!
Body for Life Forum Message by Bflmom2004 (986 posts) at 11:32 PM
Happy Fit Birthday!!
Body for Life Forum Message by Shannette22 (623 posts) at 10:01 AM
Okay, so the holidays have taken their toll on me. I've pretty much fallen off the BFL wagon. Not completely fallen off, but about 90% fallen off. haha. Anyways, I am proud to announce that I will be full throdle BFLin come January 2nd. And what makes me super excited is that I have like 3 coworkers who want to start with me then, also!! I got on this site and was showing them my progress pics as well as lots of yours and they found them to be very inspiring!!! Can't wait!!!
Body for Life Forum Message by willowgerl (207 posts) at 10:21 AM
Nice work, Shannette! It feels good when people around you get inspired, huh?
Good luck - you have already had some great progess. Ever thought about doing a show?
Body for Life Forum Message by Shannette22 (623 posts) at 10:24 AM
That is my ULTIMATE goal. I've let myself go, though, so I'm going to be back at the beginning. haha. I pretty much look now like I did at the beginning of Challenge 1. Oh, well. I certainly know what I can accomplish when I stick to it! :)
Body for Life Forum Message by Supa K (746 posts) at 11:34 AM
Congratulations! That will be so much fun -- and work!
Body for Life Forum Message by kana (340 posts) at 11:34 AM
Girl...great to have you back on board. That is awesome that you have co-workers joining you~besides the motivation from Tracker...you will have them as well.
Body for Life Forum Message by healthyme (50 posts) at 12:11 PM
I'm excited for you Shannette! It's always great to read positive posts!
Body for Life Forum Message by T~N~T (800 posts) at 02:14 PM
(I am praying that she is able to read this when she recovers.....)Please share anyone how Julie has effected your life as well if you would like too.
Oh dear where do I start? I know we have never met..... we have exchanged e-mails and PM's at the same forum....but never met formally in person. I found out about you and your courageous story in my 3rd or 4th week of my 3rd attempt at BFL. It was then that I knew I would finish my challenge. After reading everything you had endured and how much you kept going just because you had to for you. Even after severe complications and being in the hospital you still worked out. I still have this vision in my head of you doing a chest press with nothing but determination in your eyes. And also the story that you chose to eat a protein bar when you would usually chomp on a snickers bar. That one made me chuckle because I so knew where you were coming from.
See Julie, you came into my life when I started my BFL because I too had endured some pretty tough times in my life. Physically, mentally, and yes even spiritually. And then one day I just picked up and started BFL January 17th, 2004. It was so strange I just knew I could not live the way I was living. Auto pilot took over me and I just kept putting one foot in front of the other and learning each step of the way. Learning a lot about myself and learning more and more of "why" I was doing this. Then I came across your story. By some divine way I found your story. I read it. I cried. I was so filled with joy for you. You to me and still are one of the most amazing women I know. After I read that it just all "clicked" for me. I knew why I was doing BFL. Because I almost lost so much too. You taught me that it is really true that we never should take anything for granted. And no matter what, it is a good day to workout and make healthy choices. You taught me that I should never take my physical state for granted. You also taught me that I could exceed beyond my own physical disability. You know what I did!!!! To sit around and feel sorry for myself was not an option getting in the gym and pumping iron and making my arm stronger was the only option. Sitting around feeling sorry for myself and eating my troubles away was not an option but eating healthy was! Feeling sorry for myself plain and simple was not an option! It was not an option for you and you showed me it was not an option for me either. Thank you Julie Whitt!
I am just one of the many people you have helped Julie. You see this world needs you desperately. Your strong, positive, beautiful light to guide many of us. I know right now you and many Doctors are fighting for your life right now. And I keep saying if anyone can pull off one more miracle it would be you. I also know from things you have wrote that you are at peace with whatever the Lord has planned for you. I just can't imagine your strength Julie. I pray for your family and that wonderful husband of yours. I will continue to pray for you because it is a dream of mine to meet you in person one day. So please fight like hell! I know you are. I know a whole army of people are. I don't think any of us are ready to loose you right now. I will be here waiting .....
Teresa
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (377 posts) at 02:18 PM
Well said Teresa. And to Julie, You are an inspiration to alot of us and I wish you well now nad in the future. You Go Girl.
Body for Life Forum Message by kana (340 posts) at 03:04 PM
Teresa..thanks so much for starting this post. Julie has been on my mind a lot lately, especially RIGHT NOW! She is so courageous, and such a fighter. JULIE..please continue on with your true spirit. You have inspired and pushed so many of us, merely by just reading a story. You are strong...and I know you are fighting!! You are dearly loved by all...thanks very much for setting an awesoe example. YOU ROCK GIRL! Kana
Body for Life Forum Message by Karla (445 posts) at 03:10 PM
Yes, thanks Teresa. My prayers and thoughts are with Julie.
Body for Life Forum Message by GET*HER*DONE (2751 posts) at 03:27 PM
I never met Julie either, but Pm's and e-mail and I spoke with her Monday on the phone and she left me a message on the answering machine Thursday, Julie is the angel and sweetheart we all knew she is. I am praying so hard for her, My words just can't express how I feel about her right this minute, I feel so close to her, we called ourselves the 2 belly buttom twins, we both had a scar from a feeding tube. My heart goes out to her family and All I can say Is love you Julie and can't wait to give you a big hug on the cruise., my thoughts and prayers are with you Love, Your get her done friend, Linda
http://fostermama13.blogspot.com/
Body for Life Forum Message by T~N~T (800 posts) at 08:45 PM
Thanks for sharing guys. I think this would be a great little thread for her to see when she is recovering. Just a little something to see how she has inspired us personally. Thanks! ;-)
Body for Life Forum Message by Dana D (474 posts) at 08:46 PM
Thank you Teresa for this thread.
I was Blessed on October 14th at the Bowling Alley in Knoxville TN. It was something that will stay with me as long as I live. About 10 minutes after I arrived I heard the SWEETEST voice behind me saying "Dana?? Come here and give me a hug-I have been waiting to meet you for sooo long!!" It was JULIE!! I was truly AWESTRUCK. (Its not very often that you get to meet one of your heros in person...and then for her to seek ME OUT?? OMG!!!)
Julie....you have helped me thru sooo much. Your emails have lifted me up thru the passing of my beloved Tucker, the situations with my Sisters murder, the problems with my son and soooo much more. I can never say thank you enough. Your determination, friendship and attitude have taught me so much about myself. I am a better person because of Y-O-U!!
Your speech at the TN Dinner still rings thru my ears, and the warmth of your smile and hugs stay with me everyday. Meeting Matt,and your family was so special to me, but having you introduce me to them as "Your FRIEND" meant THE WORLD!!
I KNOW you will get thru this...there are so many of us praying for you, plus WE hafta run RED ROCK together!!
Theres so much more I could say-but "I love you Dear FRIEND" says it all.
God Bless....Dana
Body for Life Forum Message by Rod has changed his Bod (437 posts) at 09:11 PM
Great Post T.
Rod
Body for Life Forum Message by blemt (117 posts) at 09:14 PM
How do you find words to tell someone you've never met how much they mean to you? How do you do it without sounding like some cliche?
I'm a selfish person. I don't want you to leave this world just yet because I want to tell you these things in person. I want to stammer and blush while I try to tell you just how much you've changed my life. I want to try and tell you that you are one of my heros. I know I'll stammer more because I won't want to make you uncomfortable by saying the word hero.
Lord, I'm not family, and not even someone she might call friend. But if you can, please, please, please...find one more miracle for the Whitts tonight. And give me the chance to tell Julie these things face to face.
Body for Life Forum Message by Miss Fit (347 posts) at 09:17 PM
Thanks for starting this thread, T. Your post is beautiful and very touching.
I’ve been trying the best I can to put my thoughts about Julie into words, but I’m having a very difficult time with this… Although I’ve never met her, I feel like I’ve come to know the person she is through her blog and via other websites. Julie’s sheer determination to live her life to the fullest is awe inspiring. Her love of music, love of humor, love of children, love of her family and passionate belief system are amazing. Julie is so strong and so beautiful and so humble. Thinking of all she’s endured makes me look deeper inside myself and inspires me to be a better person. Julie is a young woman with many dreams to fulfill and a lot of living to do. I truly, truly admire her for so many reasons and hope beyond all hope that I have an opportunity to tell her how much she’s inspired me someday.
Much love to you Julie - and Matt and your family and friends. I can’t even begin to imagine what they must be feeling at this time.
Rachel
Body for Life Forum Message by Karla (445 posts) at 03:02 PM
I wanted to welcome you back. I noticed you were gone, and am very glad you came back (I didn't want to continue on that other thread...time for positivity!).
I think I know what ultimately triggered your leaving, and if I'm right, I totally agree with you. I've always been impressed with your progress and like what you have to say...so..
Welcome back! If you can, try to ignore the threads you don't like. I know it's not always easy.
Body for Life Forum Message by Karla (445 posts) at 03:13 PM
She said she was back and then signed off really fast. Damn it!!!
Body for Life Forum Message by Moggie (591 posts) at 03:27 PM
Welcome back Scotfarcus!! It saddened me when I saw that you removed yourself. I understand why but I'm so glad to see you reconsidered and came back.
Hugs
Suzanne
Body for Life Forum Message by DreamCatcher (622 posts) at 04:10 PM
Yeah, yeah! I'm glad she's back too!
Body for Life Forum Message by Karla (445 posts) at 05:59 PM
bump b/c I think she's online now, and I wanted her to see this. Hurry and read it!!!
Body for Life Forum Message by FV Tom (80 posts) at 06:38 PM
Welcome back - we are so glad you came back!
Tom
Body for Life Forum Message by Go4steffie (729 posts) at 06:15 PM
I just read Cheryl Muhr's blog on the BFL site and she suggested we light a candle for Julie.
Check out her blog and leave comments if you'd like.
http://www.bodyforlife.com/community/blog.asp?author=cmuhr&apL=5
I don't know how to make this a link, but here is the addy.
Stef :-)
Body for Life Forum Message by Karla (445 posts) at 06:18 PM
I'm doing it now...
Body for Life Forum Message by Moggie (591 posts) at 06:19 PM
Great idea...doing it here too!
Body for Life Forum Message by Dana D (474 posts) at 08:27 PM
I just got home, but Im lighting one
right now.
PLEASE God,hear our prayers for Julie, Matt and her family.
Body for Life Forum Message by jeremy (1037 posts) at 08:39 PM
Done with a prayer
Body for Life Forum Message by GET*HER*DONE (2751 posts) at 08:51 PM
One is now lite in Mississippi for our Julie,
Love, Linda
Body for Life Forum Message by Rod has changed his Bod (437 posts) at 09:00 PM
I am with ya there Stef
Rod
Body for Life Forum Message by Tai-Kee (2355 posts) at 09:28 PM
me twenty
Body for Life Forum Message by DreamCatcher (622 posts) at 10:14 PM
One is now lit in the state of Missouri!
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (377 posts) at 06:54 PM
I need 2 more people or at the least 1 person to volunteer to be a captain. All you need to do is collect everyone's stats. send them to me and let me know who hasn't sent in their stats. I will step in at that point.
Thanks
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (377 posts) at 07:12 PM
There are 37 participants and 4 captains I would like the teams to be a little smaller, so if anyone is willing I would appreciate it.
Body for Life Forum Message by shibox (5 posts) at 09:22 PM
I was a little hesitant, because I'm out of the country from 12/22 until the 1/1 (on a Cruise... yeah, wish me luck on that one! We'll see if I can eat clean..).. and am a little worried about not being accessible during that time.
But if you don't think it will be a problem - I'd like to be a captain. Sounds fun :)
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (377 posts) at 09:30 PM
Oh Thank you so I greatly appreciate it. Wish you luck on the cruise, esp since there' food avail 24/7. Eat good and remember your portion sizes.
Is there a chance I could get one more captain?
Body for Life Forum Message by jeremy (1037 posts) at 08:51 PM
please go here and pray for julie
http://onlineprayerchain.com/prayerboard/pb_list.php?ID=7751&count=Add+to+Prayer+Count
Body for Life Forum Message by jeremy (1037 posts) at 08:56 PM
The prayer is at 9:43pm or just add your own
Body for Life Forum Message by GET*HER*DONE (2751 posts) at 09:03 PM
a candle is lit and my prayers are with Julie and Matt and her family
Linda
Body for Life Forum Message by Rod has changed his Bod (437 posts) at 08:59 PM
I dont think I have ever commented on any of the negativity threads because basically I really dont have the time for it or care one way or the other.
In my world I barely have time to get on the computer anymore. With family, work and fitting in BFL there is not much time left in the day.
I do like to utilize the tracker to keep track of my progress, maybe motivate someone else with a word or two of wisdom and follow the progress of the people on here who I respect and that motivate me.
I can tell you that in the web world, just like in the real world, you can get a feel for someones personality. If you like and respect their personality interact with them, if you dont like it, dont interact with them. Now if I have never interacted with you, please do not read into this and think I do not like you. I truly am limited to my tracker time these days.
I wish the Big Bull were back, he had that personality that always seemed to get you fired up and after reading one or two of his threads you were ready to run out to the gym and go ALL IN for the next hour.
Lets all ask Santa to bring back the Big Bull. Who's with me? Are you IN or are you ALL IN?
Peace, Your BFL Buddy,
Rod
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (377 posts) at 09:01 PM
He may come back with school being on break for winter. I'll keep my fingers crossed. Remember when Tai-Kee called him little cow.
Body for Life Forum Message by GET*HER*DONE (2751 posts) at 09:09 PM
All we want for Christmas is the Big Bull back!! ((((( Singing)))))
Body for Life Forum Message by jeremy (1037 posts) at 09:28 PM
I like Big Bull as well. He was a big strong guy but not really a bull. I like the tracker to help others and to get assistance from others.
Body for Life Forum Message by Tai-Kee (2355 posts) at 09:30 PM
Yeah I still dont know if I owe my little cow a water bottle or not :)
Body for Life Forum Message by goingforbuff (1451 posts) at 09:55 PM
Rod - I think your sentiments about Tracker are shared by alot of people. I wouldn't be surprised to see some of that positivity coming back. If we ignore the negative stuff and not bring more attention to it by reacting to it, as well as keep putting more positive and helpful threads and posts out there, it will eventually get back to the tracker we know and love. Thanks for this thread...good to think about what we are here for in the first place. I am here to share in my BFL journey, meet others who are doing the same thing, gain knowledge and motivation from others around me and hopefully help other people along the way. And I have met some AWESOME people on here, and still meet new awesome people here all the time!!! I want Big Bull back, too, but we can all bring the spirit that he brought to the boards back by doing what he and many others (Rod, you are one of them) do when they post!!!
Nancy
Body for Life Forum Message by Young Guns (1518 posts) at 11:33 PM
I could always try calling him again, gotta remember how I got his number though.
Body for Life Forum Message by scotfarcus (5 posts) at 11:44 PM
thank you for the thread. I use Tracker, not only for a way to keep track of progress, and to be accountable for a week by week countdown to all of those who follow everyone's progress reports, but to get inspiration from others who struggle with food issues, weight/health issues and for general commoradery.
Body for Life Forum Message by DreamCatcher (622 posts) at 11:59 PM
I miss Big Bull too! He just has one of those "magnetic" personalities that you can't help but love!
I use tracker to keep track of my own progress, to give encouragement to others when they are hitting a rough spot (cause I never know when I'll need a kick in the butt!), and I use it to relate to others that know what I'm going through, where I'm headed, etc. I like to see others triumphs, empathize with their heartaches and just be there when they need support, no matter what kind of support they are needing at the moment. This is really the heart of it all, yes? Thanks Rod, for posting this!
Jennifer
Body for Life Forum Message by ocpanther65 (137 posts) at 11:36 PM
Hello Everyone, I thought that I would post about this upcoming week and the challenges that I for one am going to face. Christmas weekend is going to basically be one heck of an uphill battle and I was wondering if anyone had any advice to give from past experiences. I am actually really excited about the holidays but more excited about BFL. I am confident that I will be able to make it through these functions and parties without losing all that I have worked for. I just keep reminding myself that no food can taste as good as success feels and damn is that true. Here's to having a great time with our families and still sticking to plan. Remember "pain is temporary pride is forever" huhaaa.
Body for Life Forum Message by scotfarcus (5 posts) at 11:39 PM
I plan on repeating this chant..."Food is fuel, Food IS FUEL, FOOD IS FUEL"... I hope it helps to dull the cravings and to forget about my mother's homemade carmel turtles!!
Body for Life Forum Message by jeremy (1037 posts) at 10:19 AM
I pray you can do this.
Body for Life Forum Message by Aussiewen (57 posts) at 01:17 PM
Hi Kath,
Believe it or not it took me 2 years to actually nail a challenge. So you are not the only one. If you check out my photos you will see that BFL works as long as you stick with it this time like I decided to.
Wen.
Body for Life Forum Message by T~N~T (800 posts) at 01:36 PM
Hey Stranger! YOU CAN DO THIS!!!! And who cares how many times you tried. The fact is the importance is that no matter if you failed 5 times and succeeded the 6th time it was worth all the failure. Take one day at a time and yes don't strive for perfection just consistency. Just keep putting one foot in front of the other. Take care!
T
Body for Life Forum Message by Bflmom2004 (986 posts) at 04:54 PM
I agree with T...think where you would be if you NEVER tried. One thing that helps me is breaking my challenge up in alot of little chunks...then I celebrate when I make it, or repeat to myself when I am close to making the first month..."I am almost 1/3 finished with this challenge" It may seem silly, but it really works for me. Many little goals and challenges within the one goal and challenge. Welcome back!
Hugs
Christie
Body for Life Forum Message by Moggie (591 posts) at 05:12 PM
I like that idea Christie. Maybe have little rewards set aside for yourself for each week or month that you stick to it.
Body for Life Forum Message by kmachate (Self-Removed Member) (631 posts) at 04:05 PM
Oops... I farted.
Body for Life Forum Message by Bflmom2004 (986 posts) at 04:48 PM
Hmph, my ignore function doesn't seem to be working either...K did you get it figured out?
Body for Life Forum Message by chuckdiesel99 (735 posts) at 06:32 PM
Webmaster please remove the OT threads from the homepage. Im not asking you to delete it OT thread all together. A lot of people use this site by the homepage only and not everyone wants to see the OT stuff.
If anyone else agrees with me post in this message. This will be like our own little petition form. :)
Body for Life Forum Message by Frau Von Heute (80 posts) at 06:56 PM
i agree as well.
Body for Life Forum Message by ocpanther65 (137 posts) at 07:06 PM
I agree
Body for Life Forum Message by anavywife (168 posts) at 07:07 PM
I agree
Body for Life Forum Message by Go4steffie (729 posts) at 07:22 PM
I agree whole heartedly. It stinks when you keep seeing O/T threads taking over the home page.
Where is webmaster anyway????
Body for Life Forum Message by Supa K (746 posts) at 07:23 PM
Agree!
Body for Life Forum Message by Moggie (591 posts) at 07:28 PM
I agree...and also throw in a vote for appointing some moderators since the Webmaster isn't around much.
Body for Life Forum Message by crone (377 posts) at 07:29 PM
Me Me Me
Body for Life Forum Message by kana (340 posts) at 08:01 PM
I agree.. too. Good idea about the moderators. The Webmaster does this in his spare time (Thanks Webmaster!).
Body for Life Forum Message by LeoGirl (186 posts) at 08:04 PM
I agree
Body for Life Forum Message by GET*HER*DONE (2751 posts) at 08:26 PM
I agree
and webmaster, I don't feel that is should be your decision to say that it is allowed to say whatever and if you don't like it just press the ignore button, I feel you as a webmaster needs to be in control and have rules.
It's not that any of this bothers me personally, it's just not necessary to use the F word just because you feel like it.
and also this is not just an adult site, I recommend this site to teens that are interested in learning how to be fit and eat clean and learn, this site is about fitness so if you don't want to talk fitness go to another site that wants to hear your f words and come back here when you want to talk fitness.
Linda
Body for Life Forum Message by jeremy (1037 posts) at 08:37 PM
Agree
Body for Life Forum Message by Miss Fit (347 posts) at 08:59 PM
I agree, too. Mostly due to ligitimate fitness-related posts that go ignored due to the abundance of OT threads.
Body for Life Forum Message by michiganmike (170 posts) at 09:24 PM
Yep, put me down as voting against anarchy, too. Taking the forums off the front page is a start. You might also consider a special forum category for the ones looking for love interests or trolling for nude photos or cussing at others. If you labeled it that way, then no one could be complaining about stumbling into it. The more I think about it, maybe just a monitor would be better. Good luck, webmaster. This is all beginning to look like that old political adage:"No good deed goes unpunished!"
Body for Life Forum Message by Firefox Maximus (9 posts) at 09:25 PM
I agree. Also consider a "word filter" that would prevent any post that contains "adult verbiage" from appearing on the home page. Many prefer not to be exposed to profanity or graphic descriptions of sexuality or bodily functions in the "general fitness" areas.
I wonder how many guests (seeking support) have been turned off by the "drama," harsh attitudes, and profanity recently on display, never to return. It is a shame that the needs of the few have started to outweigh the needs of the many.
This site serves different purposes for different people. Unfortunately, its reputation has been recently tarnished and its usefulness to the "general fitness community" jeopardized.
I would like to see Tracker remain a valuable asset to the fitness community as a whole and not just pander to the needs of a few; particularly those who use the banner "Freedom of Speech" to justify imposing attitudes and language upon those who come here primarily for fitness support.
Chuck's suggestion is a reasonable solution to meeting the needs of all Tracker members. Keep the OT section off the home page.
Body for Life Forum Message by AngRoCamp (113 posts) at 09:37 PM
Ooooh yes! I agree!
Body for Life Forum Message by cougar (134 posts) at 10:09 PM
I definitley agreeeeeeeeeee..... I have been here much because of all the drama, i have enough in my day to day life to deal with all of this.... Lori
Body for Life Forum Message by SimpleButterfly (226 posts) at 10:17 PM
I agree.
I really do want to partake in this site, but would prefer it if the support aspect was first and foremost and the other stuff kind of a sideline.
I've said it before, I think some of the OT stuff is great! I actually believe it's needed because we all do have stressful lives and need to chat about silly things.
However, the main page should be used for BFL support and the other topics can be sought after.
Connie
Body for Life Forum Message by tcstone (572 posts) at 10:23 PM
I don't mind it. Might be nice.
Body for Life Forum Message by Jennifer A (304 posts) at 10:34 PM
I have a different take on this. I log on from the office (please don't tell!) and I like to see the top topics because i'm pressed for time. (I love top 10 lists!) But it is a DRAG to see raunchy OT threads dominating.
Body for Life Forum Message by Firefox Maximus (9 posts) at 10:44 PM
Jennifer, You will still be able to see subject headings of the OT threads in the OT area, just not on the "Home Page." Do you see the distinction? It's a workable solution that satisfies the needs of all.
Body for Life Forum Message by Bflmom2004 (986 posts) at 11:27 PM
I agree, and I do think some volunteer moderators would be awesome.
Body for Life Forum Message by scotfarcus (5 posts) at 11:46 PM
I AGREE!